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老顽童 08-10 09:04

预算定额是在施工图设计阶段用来编制施工图预算的基础*，概算定额是在初步设计阶段用来编制设计概算的基础*，两者的区别可以从以下几方面来理解：1.编制对象不同。预算定额是以定额计量单位的分项工程或结构构件为对象编制的，概算定额是以定额计量单位的扩大分项工程或扩大结构构件为对象编制的。2.综合程度不同。概算定额比预算定额综合性强。 3.定额水平不同。预算定额的定额水平较高，概算定额的定额水平较低。在根据预算定额编制概算定额时，应该增加规定的定额水平幅度差系数。 4.作用不同。预算定额用来编制施工图预算，概算定额用来编制设计概算。

其实迩是我爱的嫁衣 08-10 09:13

预算定额：是规定消耗在合格质量的单位工程基本构造要素上的人工、材料和机械台班的数量标准，是计算建筑安装产品价格的基础。　　
概算定额：是在相应预算定额的基础上，根据有代表性的设计图纸和有关*，经过适当综合、扩大以及合并而成的，介于预算定额和概算指标之间的一种定额。
概算定额的定义是预算定额的综合扩大，说个例子，砌24墙，双面抹灰，预算定额需要套砖砌体，和抹灰，概算定额只套一个砖砌体就可以了（里面已含抹灰）。这是两种定额的套用。你说的例子是这样：一个项目立项，项目建议书阶段首先要做项目估算，可行性报告阶段项目概算（此阶段概算有可能用概算定额，也有可能用概算指标），初步设计阶段的项目概算就是用概算定额了，项目招标前的招标控制价就是施工图预算（这个就是套预算定额），结算造价是中标价（合同价款）+变更索赔费用-应扣除费用（罚款，预付款，质保金之类的），一个项目结算额是10W，施工图预算有可能只有5W（变更说不准的，现实中结算超合同额2，3倍的情况也是存在的。两种定额套相同工程所得出的价格肯定不一样，一般应该是概算定额高，因为编制项目概算时，设计深度不够，项目概算要考虑变更及漏项的问题。

谷欠 08-10 09:21

预算定额是在基础定额（劳动定额、材料消耗定额、机械台班消耗定额）的基础上，将项目综合后，按工程分部分项划分，以单一的工程项目为单位计算的定额。一般是编制施工图预算或甲乙双方结算的依据。
概算定额是在预算定额的基础上，将项目再进一步综合扩大后，按扩大后的工程项目为单位进行计算的定额。一般是编制初步设计概算或进行投资包干计算的依据。
两者相比，预算定额的工程项目划分的较细，每一项目所包括的工程内容较单一；概算定额的工程项目划分的较粗，每一项目所包括的工程内容较多，也就是把预算定额中的多项工程内容合并到一项之中了。因此，概算定额中的工程项目较预算定额中的项目要少得多。

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